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The 1700 series Baggage Cars



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Heritage fleet coaches converted to 1700 series Baggage Cars (1701-1763)
All were Bud Coaches originally.
As of March 23, 2001 thirty three were in service. There have been reports of some structural issue sidelining some cars.

Location & information 
Date 
Photo Credit
 Los Angeles CA
Built 1961 for UP #5516
first Amtrak #4448
second Amtrak # 4645
 April 21, 1999
 Dick Leonhardt
 Los Angeles CA
 April 21, 1999
 Dick Leonhardt
 Chicago IL
 August 15, 1999
Jim Hebner
 Los Angeles CA
 March 25, 2000
Jim Hebner
 Chicago IL
built as ATSF coach #2827 in 1953
became Amtrak 4820, then Amtrak 4727 before being rebuilt into a baggage car
 March 8, 2001
Jim Hebner
 Chicago IL
 August 15, 1999
Jim Hebner
 Cleveland OH
 September 20, 1999
 Jim Hebner
 Framingham MA
 March 1, 2000
Dick Leonhardt 
 Chicago IL
Sept 4, 2000
 Jim Hebner
 Milwaukee WS
on train #7
 July 4, 2001
 USATRANSCOM
 Lamy NM
on train #4
 March 24, 2003
 Jim Hebner
 
 Tampa FL
 Dec 1, 2006
 Amin Ricker
 Sanford FL
used with the Sunset Limited
 Dec. 30, 2000
 Jeff Lubchansky
 Janesville WS
 July 19, 2000
 USATRANSCOM
 Interior of 1708
 July 19, 2000
 USATRANSCOM
 Interior of 1708 looking the other way
 July 19, 2000
 USATRANSCOM
 Chicago IL
 May 1999
 Jim Hebner
 Tampa FL
 Nov 28, 2006
 Amin Ricker
Hollywood FL
June 20, 2010
Richard Yudin
  no photo yet
 1713
 converted to mail only service
and renumbered 1750
 
 Tampa FL
 May 11, 2006
 Amin Rucker
 Los Angeles CA
Built 1953 for ATSF #2853
first Amtrak #4865
second Amtrak #4726
 April 22, 1999
 Dick Leonhardt
  no photo yet
 1716
  no photo yet  1717      
 1718  Framingham MA  February 22, 2000  Dick Leonhardt
 1720  Chicago IL
Built 1953 for ATSF #2852
first Amtrak #4864
second Amtrak # 4738
 April 19, 1999  Dick Leonhardt
 1720 Ft Worth TX
northbound Texas Eagle.
Jan 21, 2001   Derek Pinsonat
 1721  Chicago IL  August 15, 1999 Jim Hebner
1722  Kansas City MO
on the Southwest Chief
 converted to mail only service
and renumbered 1751

Built 1954 for SP #2374 (2nd)
first Amtrak #4437
second Amtrak # 4003
 July 16,1999  Jim Hebner
 no photo yet  1723  converted to mail only service
and renumbered 1752
   
 no photo yet  1724  converted to mail only service
and renumbered 1753
   
 no photo yet  1725  converted to mail only service
and renumbered 1754
   
 no photo yet  1726    
 no photo yet  1727  converted to mail only service
and renumbered 1755
   
 no photo yet  1728  converted to mail only service
and renumbered 1756
   
 no photo yet  1729  converted to mail only service
and renumbered 1757
   
   1730      
 no photo yet  1731      
 no photo yet  1732      
1733 Elkhart IN Nov 22, 2013 Randall Hess
 1734  Birmingham AL
in the Crescent
 April 7, 2001  
 1735  Tampa, Fl April 7, 2006 Amin Ricker 
1736  Chicago IL
Built 1961 for UP #5527
first Amtrak #4459
second Amtrak #4636
 August 15, 1999  Jim Hebner
 1737  Los Angeles CA
part of the Southwest Chief
 converted to mail only service
and renumbered 1758
 March 25, 2000

 Jim Hebner
 no photo yet  1738 .    
 no photo yet  1739  converted to mail only service
and renumbered 1759
   
1740  Chicago IL
later  converted to mail only service and renumbered 1760
Built 1950 for SP #2372 (1st) to TN&O as #445 later back to as SP 2233first Amtrak #4420
second Amtrak # 4648
 April 19, 1999  Dick Leonhardt


Twelve earlier coach/baggage conversions and two more coaches were converted to mail only service
renumbered/numbered 1750-1763
  no photo yet
 1750
ex-Amtrak 1713
  no photo yet
 1751
 ex-Amtrak 1722
  no photo yet
 1752
 ex-Amtrak 1723
 Tampa FL
ex-Amtrak 1724
 May 11, 2006
 Amin Rucker
 ex-Amtrak 1725
2008
Amin Ricker
  no photo yet
 1755
 ex-Amtrak 1727
 Toledo OH
ex-Amtrak 1728
 October 6, 2000
 Dick Leonhardt
New Orleans LA
2010
Leo W Persick Jr
New Orleans LA
2010
Leo W Persick Jr
 
 New Orleans LA
ex-Amtrak 1729
2010
Leo W Persick Jr
 1758
 Philadelphia PA
ex-Amtrak 1737
 Dec 15, 2001
 Jeff Lubchansky
1758
2008
Amin Ricker
 Chicago IL
ex Amtrak 1739
 Nov 12, 2001
 Jim Hebner
1759 Tampa FL 2008 Amin Ricker
 1760  Elkhart IN
ex Amtrak 1740
 Sept. 23, 2001  Dick Leonhardt
 no photo yet  1761 ex Amtrak 1719    
  no photo yet  1762  ex Amtrak coach 4009    
  no photo yet  1762  ex Amtrak coach 4017    

 1763 Buffalo-Depew, NY
1763 has been built with a plug door and more accurate phase 4 wide striping. This car lacks any markings except for the door dimensions, car number, and lettering. perhaps flimsy roll up doors got bashed up by forklifts too often.
 March 17, 2002  Jeff Oswald
         


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AMTRAK HERITAGE FLEET COACHES CONVERTED TO 1700-SERIES BAGGAGE CARS
from CINDERS - March 1997

CAR # SECOND AMTRAK # FIRST AMTRAK # YEAR BUILT

BUILT AS

1701 4645 4448 1961 Union Pacific 5516
1702 4727 4820 1953 Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe 2827
1703 4722 4867 1953 AT&SF 2855
1704 4732 4815 1953 AT&SF 2821
1705 4728 4863 1953 AT&SF 2851
1706 4701 4854 1953 AT&SF 2842
1707 4702 4858 1953 AT&SF 2846
1708 4703 4871 1953 AT&SF 2859
1709 4016 4413 1950 Southern Pacific 2365 [1st], to T&NO 438, later to SP 2226
1710 4715 4828 1953 AT&SF 2836
1711 4718 4813 1953 AT&SF 2819
1712 4720 4859 1953 AT&SF 2847
1713 4723 4855 1953 AT&SF 2843
1714 4724 4862 1953 AT&SF 2850
1715 4726 4865 1953 AT&SF 2853
1716 4730 4869 1953 AT&SF 2857
1717 4735 4851 1953 AT&SF 2838
1718 4736 4866 1953 AT&SF 2854
1719 4737 4872 1953 AT&SF 2860
1720 4738 4864 1953 AT&SF 2852
1721 4002 4434 1954 SP 2371 [2nd]
1722 4003 4437 1954 SP 2374 [2nd]
1723 4004 4435 1954 SP 2372 [2nd]
1724 4006 4439 1954 SP 2376 [2nd]
1725 4008 4424 1950 SP 2376 [1st], to T&NO 449, later to SP 2237
1726 4015 4426 1954 SP 2363
1727 4020 4429 1954 SP 2366 [2nd]
1728 4627 4441 1961 UP 5509
1729 4628 4454 1961 UP 5522
1730 4629 4440 1961 UP 5508
1731 4630 4450 1961 UP 5518
1732 4631 4451 1961 UP 5519
1733 4632 4457 1961 UP 5525
1734 4634 4446 1961 UP 5514
1735 4635 4453 1961 UP 5521
1736 4636 4459 1961 UP 5527
1737 4638 4449 1961 UP 5517
1738 4641 4447 1961 UP 5515
1739 4643 4452 1961 UP 5520
1740 4648 4420 1950 SP 2372 [1st], to T&NO 445, later to SP 2233

 

 

NOTES:

All cars built by Budd Company, Red Lion Plant, Philadelphia, PA

Budd Company, under Order #9613-040 built 44-seat coaches 2364-2378 for Southern Pacific in 1950. Cars 2364-2376 became Texas & New Orleans 437-449 in 1951, then were renumbered back to SP 2225-2237 in 1961. Meanwhile, SP ordered a second lot of 15 44-seat coaches under Order #9613-140, numbered 2362-2376, which were delivered in 1954.

Car 1709 was originally scheduled to be rebuilt from Heritage Coach 4704

 

SOURCES

Passenger Train Annual 1988, compiled by Mike Schafer, Interurban Press

Streamliner Cars, Volume 2-The Budd Company, by W. David Randall, 1981

Elbert W. Simon, Jr.

R. L. Eastwood, Jr.

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This archive was first accessed August 1996